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Nat @Manuel Magro: it is huge
Nat @Manuel Magro: dev bank involved
Manuel Magro Thea's dad's pension at Transnet in our opinion was stolen way before the latest fraud. He worked 12 hour shifts from very young and was paid a something like R 2500 pm(UIF equivalent) the last 10 years of his life. I get so upset about that as well.
Nat @Manuel Magro: My dads too
Manuel Magro @Nat: Also Transnet?
Nat yes
Nat he has had VF fighting many years in court for their pensions
Manuel Magro @Nat: That is horrible. Transnet's function could not be fully executed, the corrupt truck-business took it over and stuffed the roads. Apart for fraud against the pensioners as well as fraud against built contracts for trains - shout
Nat @Manuel Magro: it is terrible my dad lost millions in pension money owed to him
Nat @Manuel Magro: he is forced to live like a bum
Manuel Magro @Nat: What about those pensioners that had no benefit and have died in the mean time. It is so corrupt, how they were thrown under the bus. On top of all that, some of his savings money was also taken by corrupt people. I can just cry. Thea had to look after him for the last 10 years of his life.
Nat @Manuel Magro: not right at all
Nat @Manuel Magro: my dad collects scrap for money
Nat and he is 78
Manuel Magro @Nat: It is just so sad. You should rest and have a peaceful life a that age.
Nat @Manuel Magro: exactly
Manuel Magro I always think of the song "sillyillar of Davidson" and of Thea's dad, where corruption and hard work was repaid for by fraud and injustice. Ouch!!!
Nat @Manuel Magro: ouch is right
Manuel Magro Warm bodies, I sense, are not machines that can only make money....With medicine supposed to, designed to make you high. I'll be along son. The shepherd won't leave me alone. He's in my face and I the shepherd of days.
Nat @Manuel Magro: gee
Manuel Magro Scotts Eyes are haunting me with this song as well.
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes poor Scott
Nat @Manuel Magro: good song
Manuel Magro @Nat: Thanks, only God can inspire justice for the pensioners and afflicted peopled in old age.
Nat @Manuel Magro: That is right
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Manuel Magro @Nat: Something miraculously happened yesterday. Was called by a man who's tax got mixed up with my tax in a twisted stream of fate. I recalled him from a time when someone asked me about an incident. He was down and out in 1999. The word was that he would receive R 25 000 that was required to makes ends meet. He received R 25 000 via the post. He told me about the incident yesterday.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Holy wow
Nat and now
Manuel Magro @Nat: He is fine now, but I recalled every image that he told me about as if a visionary tape-recorder replayed. At least I know who he is now.
Nat @Manuel Magro: quite amazing
Manuel Magro @Nat: We talked for about an hour.
Nat @Manuel Magro: that is awesome
Manuel Magro @Nat: He is a very strong dedicated Christian from Lichtenburg
Nat You see i always say people do not meet by accident
Manuel Magro @Nat: Never, there is a godly plan for your life to fulfill His plan.
Nat @Manuel Magro: always
Manuel Magro @Nat: Some crazy connections at times. All the corruption cannot flourish when praying Christians unite against this evil.
Nat @Manuel Magro: no never
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Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn
Manuel Magro @Nat: Apart from all the evil, when the Word goes out, Rockefeller, Soros, ANC-regime or any growing evil weed in our banking systems through-out the world will be brought to book.
Nat @Manuel Magro: agreed
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Manuel Magro @Nat: Just time and prayer and we will be free.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Amen
Manuel Magro @Nat: Even your dad, though late will receive something good.
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes i believe that
Manuel Magro @Nat: There is a deep mystery in the bible about being persecuted for righteousness that Jesus explained in The Sermon on the Mount. This mystery was already told in the book of Job, but in an Old covenant terms.
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes
Nat @Hilmar-Hi there
Nat @Manuel Magro: Just had to send Jan Lamprecht an email sorry
Manuel Magro @Hilmar-Hi are you there?
Nat @Hilmar-welcome
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Manuel Magro Forrest Gump - Tom Hanks
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes great movie
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn
Manuel Magro @Nat: Remember a friend of mine who liked the Jim Carrey and Forrest Gump characters.
Manuel Magro Sometimes I sit and think, sometimes I just sit. Sometimes I greet, and other times I don't. Sometimes I like to stir up trouble and sometimes I pretend to be innocent. Who am I?
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Manuel Magro Neil Young - very good
Nat @Manuel Magro: HE IS
Manuel Magro My answer to the question: The fly on the wall.
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Manuel Magro Adam Sandler - always liked his movies
Nat yeah he can be funny
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn
Manuel Magro The next song from Psychedelic Furs, also later dedicated to an Adam Sandler Movie:
Nat HTHCOG-wink
Manuel Magro @Nat: Verduidelik die Hirogliewelaugh
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Manuel Magro @Nat: This song, especially the NWO and the ANC.
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn
Manuel Magro Jerry Harrison of Taking Heads helped to produce this album in a studio in York. Hoor die Sokker fluitjies wat ook deel van die akoestiek moes uitmaak.
Nat Well you learn something new every day
Manuel Magro @Nat: Not really, I recall it again
Nat oh okay
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Manuel Magro @Nat: "I am Tied to the Mast" is a phrase in the song that was inspired from a book
Nat @Manuel Magro: really
Manuel Magro @Nat: Still have the book.
Nat @Manuel Magro: cool
Manuel Magro @Nat: You can argue about a man's state of mind, but never with the accuracy of prophecy and forensic evidence
Nat @Manuel Magro: no you cant
Manuel Magro @Nat: Ongelowige Thomas moes bieg dat hy verkeerd was
Nat Wie??
Manuel Magro @Nat: Almal wat nie glo in Jesus se opstanding nie, sal ook geen teken aanvaar nie. Dit is net 'n ongelowige geslag wat vir 'n teken vra, maar net 'n gelowige geslag wat die waarheid aanvaar.
Nat @Manuel Magro: gotcha
Manuel Magro @Nat: So, as jy will onderskei, dan vra jy of 'n persoon glo in daardie werklikheid. Die wat glo is aan die regterkant van ons stryd en die wat nie glo nie verkoop uit aan die NWO.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Ja natuurlik
Manuel Magro @Nat: Gideon se wol flies en Jesus se opstanding is net deur 'n minderheid geglo.
Manuel Magro Hy sing van die "Master tapes of Songs" wat vuur moes neem - dit was sweet en vlam wat dit produseer het.
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Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn
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Manuel Magro Thanks, I am off - good stuff from Gilmour
Nat @Manuel Magro: see ya later
Nat @Hilmar-Hi
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Nicolene @Nat:Hello maatjie
Nat @Nicolene: Hi daar
Manuel Magro Money is everything for Bill Gates. When you don't have money, you must die or stop having kids - an acute problem to Bill Gates.
Nat @Nicolene: hoe gaan dit
Nat @Manuel Magro: Ja
Nicolene @Manuel Magro: hallo daar
Nicolene @Nat: goed dankie net so bietjie moeg Jing en met jou
Nat @Nicolene: dit gaan goed ek gaan nie kla nie
Nat Bietjie koud
Manuel Magro @Nicolene: Hi!
Nat @Nicolene: hoe gaan dit met die tuin
Nicolene @Nat: ai dankie tog ons somer is hier
Nat Ja julle gaan lekker warm bly
Nicolene @Nat: lol jy vra nog ek is gedaan met die tuin maar hy is amoer waar ek hom wil hê
Nat dit is goed jong
Manuel Magro @Nicolene: Jy moet laat weet as jy wel he dat ek vir jou iets moet pos
Nicolene @Manuel Magro: baie dankie ek maak so
Nat Ja enige iets kan ons speel Gf
Manuel Magro @Nicolene: Jy het self ook al gepos op die chat?
Nicolene Ek weet dit maar te goed dankie gf
Nat Ja sy het goeie smaak
Nat Dit was n baie goeie livestream vanaand
Nicolene @Manuel Magro: jip lol ek probeer soms
Nat
Nicolene Baie goeie een ja gf ek was net bietjie laat
Nat @Nicolene: Ja dit was ek gaan haar probeer op die forum kry
Manuel Magro Goeie een van UB40
Nicolene @Nat: dit sal n wenner wees gf sy het guts hoor
Nat @Nicolene: sy het ja
Nat @Manuel Magro: dankie
Nat @Manuel Magro: wil jy graag pos
Nat @Nicolene: sy sal n goeie assett wees op die forum
Nat Skuus daar was n lag by my kant
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Nat @Manuel Magro: my seun speel nou trompet
Manuel Magro @Nat: Moeilike instrument - laat my baie duislig voel.
Nat Dit is waaroor ek hier gelag het ja -hy blaas so hard jong
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Nat I like Eric Clapton
Manuel Magro Viking het dit vanaand genoem dat daar baie "witch-craft" in die werkplek is. Dit is 'n heel ander storie as jy vandag die enigste witte in jou werksplek is.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Ja dit is glad nie n goeie ding nie
Nat En hulle glo vas in daardie goed
Nat @Manuel Magro: jou beurt om te pos
Manuel Magro @Nat: Dit is baie waar. Maar jy weet verseker as hulle toorkuns op jou uithaal. Ek ken dit al baie goed teen die tyd.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Verseker,Ja
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Manuel Magro @Nat: Die eeste is, dat hulle gereeld bymekaar kom en baie "secretive raak". Dan begin die snaakse goed gebeur, soos bv dat hulle goed plant en jou snaakse stories vertel. Jy vind ook dat jou werkplek se energie raak toksies.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Ja ek ken nie die tekens nie,nie van daardie goed nie ons het nie sulke toor hier nie
Nat @Manuel Magro: jou beurt
Manuel Magro @Nat: As jy onder sataniese aanval is, voel dit asof daar so donker kombers oor jou getrek word. Jy het geen vriende nie en elke aktiwiteit raak toksies. Dit vernader net as jy baie bid.
Nat @Manuel Magro: oh ek verstaan joh dit klink nie baie lekker nie
Manuel Magro @Nat: Nee glad nie, dit hou ook nie op as jy nie geestelik daarteen veg nie. Ons hele land het 'n paar prinsipaliteite wat op 'n groot skaal hierdie geestelike kombers oor ons getrek het. Siener het ook gese dit is soos 'n swart gordyn wat oor jou oe getrek word. Dit is presies hoe dit werk. Hy was spot-on met dit.
Nat Oh genade tog dit is erg ja ek sien baie mense vergeet deesdae van bid
Nat en Geloof
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Manuel Magro @Nat: Dit is 'n realitiet wat ongelukkig nie besef word nie. Al die vyandigheid word ook deur hierdie gees opgehits. Daardie kultus wat my destyds geteiken het, was regtig presies wat ons nou mee deel. Interessant, ek het lank gebid dat Hy my die vyand sal wys, en Hy het- dit was groot heksery wat aan die gang was. Van die lot het seances gehou. Dit het ek so met die tyd agter gekom.
Nat @Manuel Magro: Amen jy is baie gelukkig
Manuel Magro @Nat: As jy Hom vertou, wys Hy jou uiteindelik alles en gee ook die plan om daarmee te deel.
Nat @Manuel Magro: jou beurt om te pos
Nat @Manuel Magro: dit is waar
Nat Vid not avail
Nat @Manuel Magro: ek het van hierdie lied vergeet,dit is n goeie een
Manuel Magro Dankie, was baie gewild in die 1980's
Nat Hy klink baie soos Cliff Richard
Manuel Magro @Nat: Ja, baie
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Manuel Magro @Nat: "Needless activity" veral in die werkplek is iets waarvoor jy ook versigtig moet wees. Die rede is die volgende: Die bybel se dat rebellie, is "witch-craft". As jy nie by jou mandate hou nie, loop jy ook gevaar om in slaggate te trap. Enigiets wat buite God se Wil is vir jou lewe is streng-gesproke "witch-craft".
Nat @Manuel Magro: ek was nie bewus dit word so aanbeskou nie
Manuel Magro @Nat: Dit is ook so met wat jy se. Want jou oes kom terug, so ook jou aktiwiteite. As jy nie lewe spreek en seen nie, pleeg jy eintlik ook "witch-craft".
Nat @Manuel Magro: ek verstaan
Manuel Magro @Nat: Dit is skrikwekkend, maar daarom moet jy 24/7 God met hele hart, verstand en alle krag dien, om nie deel van rebellie te wees nie.
Nat Ja ek verstaan dit goed
Manuel Magro Jy kan dus nie lou wees nie
Nat @Manuel Magro: This guy is just amazing yes
Manuel Magro Great song writer and good guitarist
Nat For sure
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Manuel Magro Like this
Nat @Manuel Magro: yes i think this guy and the instruments are great together
Manuel Magro Like the mood of the song and his voice is also good
Nat Yes it is amazing i found it a few months ago and just loved the song it is kinda pick you upper
Manuel Magro I can listen to this type of music for hours - very relaxing - the blues is for me - definitely
Nat Yes it is awesome
Manuel Magro @Nat: My friend Christiaan is really exeptionally good with this style. I learned a lot from him
Nat @Manuel Magro: that is very gifted
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn to post
Manuel Magro @Nat: His girlfriend Ivy sang and he played the guitar. It was with him that I learned about the Harmonic Minor scales and modes - I was harldy getting by, but he told me that he liked my melodieslaugh
Nat @Manuel Magro: That is a good memory to have for sure
Manuel Magro @Nat: You can never master the guitar.
Nat @Manuel Magro: never i agree
Manuel Magro @Nat: There is just too much to learn.
Nat agreed
Nat i could not do it
Manuel Magro @Nat: If you interrupt your development, it goes very slow.
Nat @Manuel Magro: i imagine so it would
Manuel Magro @Nat: Another thing is computers - almost impossible to master it
Nat I agree yes
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Manuel Magro Where is Klaas?
Nat @Manuel Magro: computers change too fast
Nat @Manuel Magro: I have no idea have not seen him in a while
Manuel Magro @Nat: Definitely it does, change quickly. Today's youth have a better chance.
Nat @Manuel Magro: they learn faster
Manuel Magro You get set in your ways past 40 or so and past 50 you are quite fixed.
Nat @Manuel Magro: I totally can concur with that statement
Nat I am pretty set in my ways
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn to post
Manuel Magro It was in the 1990's and early 2000's when the internet became something of note. But Only when modern smartphones became the norm that it boomed. That for me is from around 2008 where good quality powerful smart-phones and computers became the norm
Nat @Manuel Magro: for me was round 1990s yes
Manuel Magro @Nat: My first cell phone was a Siemens model and then the Nokia, around 1995 maybe
Nat @Manuel Magro: i can seriously not remember those details
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Manuel Magro Computers, I had a a 286 DX Desktop with 386 Math coprocessor - that is when I started to work with engineering software. But that was still turbo Pascal, Fortran, Matlab and early editions and mathcad.
Nat @Manuel Magro:your memory better than mine
Nat I worked on Microsoft project manager and hated it
Manuel Magro @Nat: I also tend to forget some things. When I worked on plant, I new every system in quite some detail. You interface with computers, load firmware and config-files etc.
Manuel Magro @Nat: The Ghant charts and work flows - can be quite borng I must say
Nat @Manuel Magro: oh yes it could be
Manuel Magro @Nat: On Excel, I can help myself, but I don't see myself to go very deep into it very soon.
Nat @Manuel Magro: That is good most people cant
Nat @Manuel Magro: your turn to post
Manuel Magro @Nat: I was good with MATLAB - that is engineering development software - you can design almost anything with Matlab if you want.
Nat @Manuel Magro: never heard of it of course
Manuel Magro @Nat: I see it as a hobby, I simulated most of our electrical generators and AVR control systems on Matlab. I went to the electrical plant, record a few tests conditions and steps and take the data and fit a MATLAB model onto it. So I can work out if my machine will be stable with certain setting if highly loaded and how to stabilise the rotor oscillations with some tricks
Nat @Manuel Magro: very smart indeed
Manuel Magro @Nat: It was my best subject when I studied(control systems) -, power systems and machines and it taught me how to build software models for plant.
Nat good thing ,well done
Manuel Magro @Nat: I am getting sleepy know, I will be off. Thanks for music and chat.
Nat @Manuel Magro: take care
Nat @Manuel Magro: sleep well