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Op versoek plaas ek weer hierdie skrywes aangesien dit deel vorm van die kronologie van eindgebeure.
Om ‘n verkorte weergawe te gee van wat die toekoms is, wat volgens die Bybel weergegee word, is soos volg:
1 Volgende op die kalender is die Psalms 83 oorlog wat ek nou weer plaas.
2 Dan Eségiël 38-39 oorlog. Alreeds hieroor geskryf en sal volgende plaas. Hier vind die Wegraping plaas en verskuif die toneel na die Hemel vir Openbaring 4-5. Hier vind die Regterstoel oordeel plaas. Terselfdetyd verskuif hiermee die aandag na die aarde vanaf Openbaring 6. Dit is die tyd van die 7 jaar verdrukking.
3 Aan die einde van die 7 jaar kom Jesus en die Slag van Armagedon vind plaas. Besig om hieroor te skryf. Dadelik vind die Bok en Skaap Nasies oordeel plaas. Die 1000 jarige vrederyk kom in werking.
4 Aan die einde van die 1000 jaar vind die Groot Wit Troon oordeel plaas.
5 Dan is dit die laaste oorlog en die ewigheid begin naamlik nuwe Hemel en Nuwe aarde.Daar is 3 oorlewings oorloë wat die Bybel behandel waarin Israel die middelpunt gaan wees en hierdie berig raak die eerste.
In Deel 2 en 3 gaan ek ‘n uitleg plaas wat ek ‘n paar jaar gelede geskryf het oor hierdie oorlog, waarvan hier onder gepraat word.
Ek plaas heelwat inligting hier om ‘n deeglike agtergrond te skets vir Deel 2 en 3.
Kom ons begin eerstens met die Wêreld beskouwing .
If Israel strikes Iran, what happens next? – Adam Hoffman
As negotiations between the world powers and Iran in Vienna continue and reportedly enter their “final stage,” many in the Middle East – but also in Washington and European capitals – hold their breath to see if a return to a nuclear deal with Iran is possible.
Israel is also closely following developments in Vienna. Accepting the fact that some agreement with Iran is almost certainly on the way, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett recently said that “the agreement and what appears to be its conditions will damage the ability to take on [Iran’s] nuclear program.”
Yet, if the talks in Vienna fail to produce an agreement and Iran is free to pursue its nuclear program (in addition to its existing malign regional activities, including against Israeli targets), the prospects for an Israeli strike against Iran become much higher.
Worrying that a deal with Iran won’t be able to stop the country from developing a nuclear weapon, Israel already signaled its readiness to strike Iran. Bennett stated that “Israel will continue to ensure its full freedom of operation in any place and at any time, with no limitations,” and incoming IAF commander Maj.-Gen. Tomer Bar said that the Israel Air Force is ready to attack Iran “tomorrow.”
If Israel does indeed attack Iran, as Israeli officials have increasingly implied might happen, what impact would it have on the Middle East? How would the region be any different after such a development?
These questions may be hypothetical now, but they could very well turn out to be reality tomorrow.
Hier volg ‘n moontlike uitleg volgens menslike seining.
TO ANSWER them, Wikistrat, a crowdsourced consultancy, ran a weeklong simulation from January 24 to 31, 2022, while the talks in Vienna were still taking place.
To explore how an Israeli strike would impact the region’s stability, the simulation focused on the five actors that were considered the most significant in the Gulf region: Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United States, China and Russia. The simulation included 31 experts from 13 countries and focused on three scenarios: a successful Israeli strike on Iran, a failed strike, and a partially successful strike.
Discussions in the simulation produced a few key insights, which observers of developments in the region may want to keep in mind as they try to make sense of the Middle East in the next few years.
First, the experts argued that in the years after an Israeli military strike (regardless of its results), the Middle East will enter the nuclear proliferation phase, which will include not only Israel but also Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia. An Israeli strike will embolden the Iran regime’s desire to have a nuclear weapon, viewing it – much like North Korea – as a guarantee against future attacks.
For its part, fearing an Iranian nuclear retaliation against it, Saudi Arabia will also seek to develop its own nuclear program. This is based on the participants’ assessment that a failed Israeli strike would drive the Saudi leadership to move forward as quickly as possible with its own nuclear program. A successful strike could serve as a catalyst to the Saudi nuclear program, encouraging Saudi decision-makers to leverage the attack and to catch up with the Iranian nuclear program.
How would an Israeli strike against Iran impact Israel?
A successful strike could lead to a Saudi-Israeli normalization. Some of the experts argued that a successful Israeli strike might cause Mohammed bin Salman, as king, to normalize relations with Israel, in the expectation that the entrenched anti-Iranian sentiment in Saudi Arabia would outweigh any backlash against normalization.
However, a failed strike could have a negative effect on Israel’s regional position, as Israel was perceived until then as a strong partner to the Gulf states on security affairs and a critical partner for confronting Iran. The experts assessed that if Israel failed to deliver on confronting Iran by failing to destroy its nuclear facilities, Saudi Arabia would be less inclined to engage with it.
While a nuclear deal between the US, other world powers and Iran seems almost certain at this point, the stakes for an unchecked nuclear Iran are higher than ever.
If Israel feels compelled to act alone to stop a nuclear Iran, a completely different geopolitical reality could emerge in the Middle East.
A simulation examining what happens when Israel strikes Iran, featuring some of the world’s top Iran and Middle East experts, gives us a look at the year after such a development.
Such a strike would impact Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China and the United States – but also Israel’s regional position.
Dit het nou al soveel verder beweeg en so ‘n oorlog kan enige dag uitbreek.
Net omdit baie duidelik te stel, niemand weet wanneer dit gaan gebeur nie, net God. Die skaakstukke skuif wel vinnig reg vir skaakmat.
Hier volg ‘n paar opskrifte
Lapid to ‘Post’: If Iran brings war to Israel’s doorstep, war will come to Iran.
Turning to Iran, Lapid said that if a new deal is reached between the Western powers and the Islamic Republic, it would not apply to Israel. “It doesn’t apply to us in any way, and we are going to do whatever is necessary to make sure Iran doesn’t become a threshold nuclear country,” he said.Israel holds Red Sea navy drill, after warning Iran’s maritime activity is growing
Rep. Mast to Newsmax: ‘Nobody’ Believes Biden Would Destroy Iran’s Nukes, If Challenged
Unlike previous presidential tenures, Rep. Brian Mast, R-Fla., believes the Biden administration doesn’t strike much fear into the hearts of the United States’ enemies, in terms of backing up tough talk with physical force, if sufficiently challenged.
As a result, Mast says Iran can claim that it’s on the brink of possessing the technological capabilities for a nuclear weapon, without fear of immediate American reprisal under President Joe Biden’s watch.
“No. 1, look at who Iran is,” says Mast, alluding to Iran’s placement on America’s “Sponsors of Terror” list, along with Cuba, Syria, and North Korea.IDF chief: ‘Diplomacy can fail,’ attack on Iran ‘at the center’ of IDF preparations
Aviv Kohavi acknowledges ‘possibility’ IDF will need to strike Iranian nuke facilities, says Israel has ‘moral obligation’ to be ready with military responseArmy chief Aviv Kohavi
Army chief Aviv Kohavi on Sunday said it was Israel’s “moral obligation” to prepare a military response against Iran’s nuclear program, hours after a senior Iranian official said his country has the ability to produce a weapon.Ex-Israeli ambassador to US:
Biden policy driving Israel to act alone to stop nuclear-armed Iran
Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer on Monday said the Biden administration’s policies toward Iran increase the likelihood that Israel will need to act alone to stop Tehran’s nuclear program.Ek het nog vele ander berigte en inligting, maar voel hierdie behoort die ernstige situasie uit te lig.
Israel het onderneem “NEVER AGAIN” en die wêreld moet dit nooit vergeet nie.
Soos gesê, hierdie is wat nou in die wêreld aan die gang is, maar wat sê die Bybel?
Volgende week kyk ons daarna en sien hoe ongelooflik die Bybel hierdie dinge voorspel. Ja, in fyn detail
Op versoek plaas ek weer hierdie skrywes aangesien dit deel vorm van die kronologie van eindgebeure.
Om ‘n verkorte weergawe te gee van wat die toekoms is, wat volgens die Bybel weergegee word, is soos volg:
1 Volgende op die kalender is die Psalms 83 oorlog wat ek nou weer plaas.
2 Dan Eségiël 38-39 oorlog. Alreeds hieroor geskryf en sal volgende plaas. Hier vind die Wegraping plaas en verskuif die toneel na die Hemel vir Openbaring 4-5. Hier vind die Regterstoel oordeel plaas. Terselfdetyd verskuif hiermee die aandag na die aarde vanaf Openbaring 6. Dit is die tyd van die 7 jaar verdrukking.
3 Aan die einde van die 7 jaar kom Jesus en die Slag van Armagedon vind plaas. Besig om hieroor te skryf. Dadelik vind die Bok en Skaap Nasies oordeel plaas. Die 1000 jarige vrederyk kom in werking.
4 Aan die einde van die 1000 jaar vind die Groot Wit Troon oordeel plaas.
5 Dan is dit die laaste oorlog en die ewigheid begin naamlik nuwe Hemel en Nuwe aarde.Daar is 3 oorlewings oorloë wat die Bybel behandel waarin Israel die middelpunt gaan wees en hierdie berig raak die eerste.
In Deel 2 en 3 gaan ek ‘n uitleg plaas wat ek ‘n paar jaar gelede geskryf het oor hierdie oorlog, waarvan hier onder gepraat word.
Ek plaas heelwat inligting hier om ‘n deeglike agtergrond te skets vir Deel 2 en 3.
Kom ons begin eerstens met die Wêreld beskouwing .
If Israel strikes Iran, what happens next? – Adam Hoffman
As negotiations between the world powers and Iran in Vienna continue and reportedly enter their “final stage,” many in the Middle East – but also in Washington and European capitals – hold their breath to see if a return to a nuclear deal with Iran is possible.
Israel is also closely following developments in Vienna. Accepting the fact that some agreement with Iran is almost certainly on the way, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett recently said that “the agreement and what appears to be its conditions will damage the ability to take on [Iran’s] nuclear program.”
Yet, if the talks in Vienna fail to produce an agreement and Iran is free to pursue its nuclear program (in addition to its existing malign regional activities, including against Israeli targets), the prospects for an Israeli strike against Iran become much higher.
Worrying that a deal with Iran won’t be able to stop the country from developing a nuclear weapon, Israel already signaled its readiness to strike Iran. Bennett stated that “Israel will continue to ensure its full freedom of operation in any place and at any time, with no limitations,” and incoming IAF commander Maj.-Gen. Tomer Bar said that the Israel Air Force is ready to attack Iran “tomorrow.”
If Israel does indeed attack Iran, as Israeli officials have increasingly implied might happen, what impact would it have on the Middle East? How would the region be any different after such a development?
These questions may be hypothetical now, but they could very well turn out to be reality tomorrow.
Hier volg ‘n moontlike uitleg volgens menslike seining.
TO ANSWER them, Wikistrat, a crowdsourced consultancy, ran a weeklong simulation from January 24 to 31, 2022, while the talks in Vienna were still taking place.
To explore how an Israeli strike would impact the region’s stability, the simulation focused on the five actors that were considered the most significant in the Gulf region: Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United States, China and Russia. The simulation included 31 experts from 13 countries and focused on three scenarios: a successful Israeli strike on Iran, a failed strike, and a partially successful strike.
Discussions in the simulation produced a few key insights, which observers of developments in the region may want to keep in mind as they try to make sense of the Middle East in the next few years.
First, the experts argued that in the years after an Israeli military strike (regardless of its results), the Middle East will enter the nuclear proliferation phase, which will include not only Israel but also Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia. An Israeli strike will embolden the Iran regime’s desire to have a nuclear weapon, viewing it – much like North Korea – as a guarantee against future attacks.
For its part, fearing an Iranian nuclear retaliation against it, Saudi Arabia will also seek to develop its own nuclear program. This is based on the participants’ assessment that a failed Israeli strike would drive the Saudi leadership to move forward as quickly as possible with its own nuclear program. A successful strike could serve as a catalyst to the Saudi nuclear program, encouraging Saudi decision-makers to leverage the attack and to catch up with the Iranian nuclear program.
How would an Israeli strike against Iran impact Israel?
A successful strike could lead to a Saudi-Israeli normalization. Some of the experts argued that a successful Israeli strike might cause Mohammed bin Salman, as king, to normalize relations with Israel, in the expectation that the entrenched anti-Iranian sentiment in Saudi Arabia would outweigh any backlash against normalization.
However, a failed strike could have a negative effect on Israel’s regional position, as Israel was perceived until then as a strong partner to the Gulf states on security affairs and a critical partner for confronting Iran. The experts assessed that if Israel failed to deliver on confronting Iran by failing to destroy its nuclear facilities, Saudi Arabia would be less inclined to engage with it.
While a nuclear deal between the US, other world powers and Iran seems almost certain at this point, the stakes for an unchecked nuclear Iran are higher than ever.
If Israel feels compelled to act alone to stop a nuclear Iran, a completely different geopolitical reality could emerge in the Middle East.
A simulation examining what happens when Israel strikes Iran, featuring some of the world’s top Iran and Middle East experts, gives us a look at the year after such a development.
Such a strike would impact Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China and the United States – but also Israel’s regional position.
Dit het nou al soveel verder beweeg en so ‘n oorlog kan enige dag uitbreek.
Net omdit baie duidelik te stel, niemand weet wanneer dit gaan gebeur nie, net God. Die skaakstukke skuif wel vinnig reg vir skaakmat.
Hier volg ‘n paar opskrifte
Lapid to ‘Post’: If Iran brings war to Israel’s doorstep, war will come to Iran.
Turning to Iran, Lapid said that if a new deal is reached between the Western powers and the Islamic Republic, it would not apply to Israel. “It doesn’t apply to us in any way, and we are going to do whatever is necessary to make sure Iran doesn’t become a threshold nuclear country,” he said.Israel holds Red Sea navy drill, after warning Iran’s maritime activity is growing
Rep. Mast to Newsmax: ‘Nobody’ Believes Biden Would Destroy Iran’s Nukes, If Challenged
Unlike previous presidential tenures, Rep. Brian Mast, R-Fla., believes the Biden administration doesn’t strike much fear into the hearts of the United States’ enemies, in terms of backing up tough talk with physical force, if sufficiently challenged.
As a result, Mast says Iran can claim that it’s on the brink of possessing the technological capabilities for a nuclear weapon, without fear of immediate American reprisal under President Joe Biden’s watch.
“No. 1, look at who Iran is,” says Mast, alluding to Iran’s placement on America’s “Sponsors of Terror” list, along with Cuba, Syria, and North Korea.IDF chief: ‘Diplomacy can fail,’ attack on Iran ‘at the center’ of IDF preparations
Aviv Kohavi acknowledges ‘possibility’ IDF will need to strike Iranian nuke facilities, says Israel has ‘moral obligation’ to be ready with military responseArmy chief Aviv Kohavi
Army chief Aviv Kohavi on Sunday said it was Israel’s “moral obligation” to prepare a military response against Iran’s nuclear program, hours after a senior Iranian official said his country has the ability to produce a weapon.Ex-Israeli ambassador to US:
Biden policy driving Israel to act alone to stop nuclear-armed Iran
Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer on Monday said the Biden administration’s policies toward Iran increase the likelihood that Israel will need to act alone to stop Tehran’s nuclear program.Ek het nog vele ander berigte en inligting, maar voel hierdie behoort die ernstige situasie uit te lig.
Israel het onderneem “NEVER AGAIN” en die wêreld moet dit nooit vergeet nie.
Soos gesê, hierdie is wat nou in die wêreld aan die gang is, maar wat sê die Bybel?
Volgende week kyk ons daarna en sien hoe ongelooflik die Bybel hierdie dinge voorspel. Ja, in fyn detail
Psalms 83 Oorlog Deel 1
Goeie more,
Op versoek plaas ek weer hierdie skrywes aangesien dit deel vorm van die kronologie van eindgebeure.
Om ‘n verkorte weergawe te gee van wat die toekoms is, wat volgens die Bybel weergegee word, is soos volg:
1 Volgende op die kalender is die Psalms 83 oorlog wat ek nou weer plaas.
2 Dan Eségiël 38-39 oorlog. Alreeds hieroor geskryf en sal volgende plaas. Hier vind die Wegraping plaas en verskuif die toneel na die Hemel vir Openbaring 4-5. Hier vind die Regterstoel oordeel plaas. Terselfdetyd verskuif hiermee die aandag na die aarde vanaf Openbaring 6. Dit is die tyd van die 7 jaar verdrukking.
3 Aan die einde van die 7 jaar kom Jesus en die Slag van Armagedon vind plaas. Besig om hieroor te skryf. Dadelik vind die Bok en Skaap Nasies oordeel plaas. Die 1000 jarige vrederyk kom in werking.
4 Aan die einde van die 1000 jaar vind die Groot Wit Troon oordeel plaas.
5 Dan is dit die laaste oorlog en die ewigheid begin naamlik nuwe Hemel en Nuwe aarde.Daar is 3 oorlewings oorloë wat die Bybel behandel waarin Israel die middelpunt gaan wees en hierdie berig raak die eerste.
In Deel 2 en 3 gaan ek ‘n uitleg plaas wat ek ‘n paar jaar gelede geskryf het oor hierdie oorlog, waarvan hier onder gepraat word.
Ek plaas heelwat inligting hier om ‘n deeglike agtergrond te skets vir Deel 2 en 3.
Kom ons begin eerstens met die Wêreld beskouwing .
If Israel strikes Iran, what happens next? – Adam Hoffman
As negotiations between the world powers and Iran in Vienna continue and reportedly enter their “final stage,” many in the Middle East – but also in Washington and European capitals – hold their breath to see if a return to a nuclear deal with Iran is possible.
Israel is also closely following developments in Vienna. Accepting the fact that some agreement with Iran is almost certainly on the way, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett recently said that “the agreement and what appears to be its conditions will damage the ability to take on [Iran’s] nuclear program.”
Yet, if the talks in Vienna fail to produce an agreement and Iran is free to pursue its nuclear program (in addition to its existing malign regional activities, including against Israeli targets), the prospects for an Israeli strike against Iran become much higher.
Worrying that a deal with Iran won’t be able to stop the country from developing a nuclear weapon, Israel already signaled its readiness to strike Iran. Bennett stated that “Israel will continue to ensure its full freedom of operation in any place and at any time, with no limitations,” and incoming IAF commander Maj.-Gen. Tomer Bar said that the Israel Air Force is ready to attack Iran “tomorrow.”
If Israel does indeed attack Iran, as Israeli officials have increasingly implied might happen, what impact would it have on the Middle East? How would the region be any different after such a development?
These questions may be hypothetical now, but they could very well turn out to be reality tomorrow.
Hier volg ‘n moontlike uitleg volgens menslike seining.
TO ANSWER them, Wikistrat, a crowdsourced consultancy, ran a weeklong simulation from January 24 to 31, 2022, while the talks in Vienna were still taking place.
To explore how an Israeli strike would impact the region’s stability, the simulation focused on the five actors that were considered the most significant in the Gulf region: Iran, Saudi Arabia, the United States, China and Russia. The simulation included 31 experts from 13 countries and focused on three scenarios: a successful Israeli strike on Iran, a failed strike, and a partially successful strike.
Discussions in the simulation produced a few key insights, which observers of developments in the region may want to keep in mind as they try to make sense of the Middle East in the next few years.
First, the experts argued that in the years after an Israeli military strike (regardless of its results), the Middle East will enter the nuclear proliferation phase, which will include not only Israel but also Iran and possibly Saudi Arabia. An Israeli strike will embolden the Iran regime’s desire to have a nuclear weapon, viewing it – much like North Korea – as a guarantee against future attacks.
For its part, fearing an Iranian nuclear retaliation against it, Saudi Arabia will also seek to develop its own nuclear program. This is based on the participants’ assessment that a failed Israeli strike would drive the Saudi leadership to move forward as quickly as possible with its own nuclear program. A successful strike could serve as a catalyst to the Saudi nuclear program, encouraging Saudi decision-makers to leverage the attack and to catch up with the Iranian nuclear program.
How would an Israeli strike against Iran impact Israel?
A successful strike could lead to a Saudi-Israeli normalization. Some of the experts argued that a successful Israeli strike might cause Mohammed bin Salman, as king, to normalize relations with Israel, in the expectation that the entrenched anti-Iranian sentiment in Saudi Arabia would outweigh any backlash against normalization.
However, a failed strike could have a negative effect on Israel’s regional position, as Israel was perceived until then as a strong partner to the Gulf states on security affairs and a critical partner for confronting Iran. The experts assessed that if Israel failed to deliver on confronting Iran by failing to destroy its nuclear facilities, Saudi Arabia would be less inclined to engage with it.
While a nuclear deal between the US, other world powers and Iran seems almost certain at this point, the stakes for an unchecked nuclear Iran are higher than ever.
If Israel feels compelled to act alone to stop a nuclear Iran, a completely different geopolitical reality could emerge in the Middle East.
A simulation examining what happens when Israel strikes Iran, featuring some of the world’s top Iran and Middle East experts, gives us a look at the year after such a development.
Such a strike would impact Iran, Saudi Arabia, Russia, China and the United States – but also Israel’s regional position.
Dit het nou al soveel verder beweeg en so ‘n oorlog kan enige dag uitbreek.
Net omdit baie duidelik te stel, niemand weet wanneer dit gaan gebeur nie, net God. Die skaakstukke skuif wel vinnig reg vir skaakmat.
Hier volg ‘n paar opskrifte
Lapid to ‘Post’: If Iran brings war to Israel’s doorstep, war will come to Iran.
Turning to Iran, Lapid said that if a new deal is reached between the Western powers and the Islamic Republic, it would not apply to Israel. “It doesn’t apply to us in any way, and we are going to do whatever is necessary to make sure Iran doesn’t become a threshold nuclear country,” he said.Israel holds Red Sea navy drill, after warning Iran’s maritime activity is growing
Rep. Mast to Newsmax: ‘Nobody’ Believes Biden Would Destroy Iran’s Nukes, If Challenged
Unlike previous presidential tenures, Rep. Brian Mast, R-Fla., believes the Biden administration doesn’t strike much fear into the hearts of the United States’ enemies, in terms of backing up tough talk with physical force, if sufficiently challenged.
As a result, Mast says Iran can claim that it’s on the brink of possessing the technological capabilities for a nuclear weapon, without fear of immediate American reprisal under President Joe Biden’s watch.
“No. 1, look at who Iran is,” says Mast, alluding to Iran’s placement on America’s “Sponsors of Terror” list, along with Cuba, Syria, and North Korea.IDF chief: ‘Diplomacy can fail,’ attack on Iran ‘at the center’ of IDF preparations
Aviv Kohavi acknowledges ‘possibility’ IDF will need to strike Iranian nuke facilities, says Israel has ‘moral obligation’ to be ready with military responseArmy chief Aviv Kohavi
Army chief Aviv Kohavi on Sunday said it was Israel’s “moral obligation” to prepare a military response against Iran’s nuclear program, hours after a senior Iranian official said his country has the ability to produce a weapon.Ex-Israeli ambassador to US:
Biden policy driving Israel to act alone to stop nuclear-armed Iran
Former Israeli Ambassador to the U.S. Ron Dermer on Monday said the Biden administration’s policies toward Iran increase the likelihood that Israel will need to act alone to stop Tehran’s nuclear program.Ek het nog vele ander berigte en inligting, maar voel hierdie behoort die ernstige situasie uit te lig.
Israel het onderneem “NEVER AGAIN” en die wêreld moet dit nooit vergeet nie.
Soos gesê, hierdie is wat nou in die wêreld aan die gang is, maar wat sê die Bybel?
Volgende week kyk ons daarna en sien hoe ongelooflik die Bybel hierdie dinge voorspel. Ja, in fyn detail
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